Monday, June 16, 2008

Wonder How THIS Will Go Over In Some Quarters?

"Traditional Mass for 'all the parishes"

And it is interesting that Cardinal Hoyos refers here to the Traditional Latin Mass as the "Gregorian Rite," a term often used by Anglo-Catholics and [Western Rite] Byzantine Orthodox, but which has been rare in Roman circles.


Alice C. Linsley said...

I think the reception of the Gregorian Rite will be good (except among "modernist" Catholics). Here is the key, I think: "If the parish priest selects an hour, on Sundays, to celebrate the Mass, and prepare with catechesis the community to understand it, to appreciate the power of the silence, the power of the sacred way in front of God, the deep theology, to discover how and why the priests represents the person of Christ and to pray with the priest."

FrGregACCA said...

Unfortunately, Alice, I fear there may be more "modernist" Roman Catholics out there than we might like to think, to include many in the Roman hierarchy.

See Survey finds some [Roman] Catholics looking for a political home

I found the results concerning abortion and homosexual marriage especially problemmatic, and wondered what a similar survery of Eastern Orthodox Christians would reveal.

It was the "modernist" members of the hierarchy I primarily had in mind when I asked the rhetorical question, since they can do the most to impede Benedict's agenda here.

matt said...

I just find it bizarre that they've come up with yet another name for it. Just when I had gotten used to "Extraordinary form"...

Ttony said...

Dear Father, I think your survey would find "Eastern Orthodox Christians" as self-defined by the survey as unChristian as their self-defined Roman Catholic brethren. I would be interested to see a survey of Catholics (or Orthodox, or whomever) defined by their "putting money onto the plate each Sunday".

I think that "Gregorian" has been hit on as a term to frighten the "archaeologists": if something was current before 600AD, then it's hard to deny its antiquity.

FrGregACCA said...

ttony: Well, the Orthodox generally don't take up collections in the same way that Western Churches do.

In any event, it seems you are right, sadly. The release of the above-linked survery was followed by one from the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life.
It is found here. Sure enough, the numbers on abortion, homosexuality, and other problemmatic areas (with regard to level of practice, for example) are comparable. The need for re-evangelization is apparently not confined to the Roman Church.

Alice C. Linsley said...

Perhaps we should start not with the Eucharist, which is for the evangelized, but with teaching the meaning of baptism.

I attended a Lutheran seminary (Philadelphia) where we were taught that all things of the Church hang on a proper understanding (Pauline) of baptism.