tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4058990608176249.post424797113095716465..comments2023-05-28T03:49:37.676-04:00Comments on VagantePriest: An Evangelical Appreciates "Theosis"FrGregACCAhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00368463715994694203noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4058990608176249.post-41760639490444023162008-10-30T09:25:00.000-04:002008-10-30T09:25:00.000-04:00LOL. Not at all, Jesse, not at all. Actually, I ...LOL. Not at all, Jesse, not at all. Actually, I quoted it in a discussion/debate with some Mormons (in the combox of self-described "Fundamentalist Baptist's" blog. Here, you can see for yourself:<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://heartissuesforlds.wordpress.com/2008/10/28/quotes-from-andrew-jacksons-latest-book" REL="nofollow">"Quotes from Andrew Jackson's Latest Book"</A><BR/><BR/>It is comment #16.FrGregACCAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00368463715994694203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4058990608176249.post-76383020317688294252008-10-30T03:32:00.000-04:002008-10-30T03:32:00.000-04:00Father,As long as it isn't prefaced with "so some ...Father,<BR/><BR/>As long as it isn't prefaced with "so some jerk said..." assume away. :) <BR/><BR/>Take care,<BR/><BR/>JesseJessehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16489267523825043665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4058990608176249.post-27204034657825917262008-10-29T18:33:00.000-04:002008-10-29T18:33:00.000-04:00Jesse, thanks for your comment. I completely agre...Jesse, thanks for your comment. I completely agree. With your permission (which I am going to assume), I am going to quote you on another blog.FrGregACCAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00368463715994694203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4058990608176249.post-56573796383863045882008-10-29T18:12:00.000-04:002008-10-29T18:12:00.000-04:00I think that the central problem with the Reformat...I think that the central problem with the Reformation and its descendant movements lies in its treatment of the apostolic faith, as if it were something separate from the life of the Church that could be ripped out of ancient times and brought to the present day through sheer force of intellect. It's so telling that all of the elements of a full Christian life from East to West are present, regardless of doctrinal emphases, in those churches that bear an organic connection to the apostolic Church. <BR/><BR/>Copts, Roman Catholics, Assyrians, Byzantines are all taught that fasting is valuable. All have a notion of sacramental grace. All believe in the genuine presence of Christ in the Eucharist. All believe that faith in Christ is the key, but that it ultimately has a transformative impact. It's only when someone comes in and says,"Generations of these people have gotten it wrong, but here, look, I've figured it out and now I'm going to rebuild the church" that the balance is lost and what passes for Christianity becomes some caricature of the ancient church.<BR/><BR/>"There's no need for fasting! Sacraments are lame and pointless! All it takes is faith!"<BR/><BR/>It's akin to saying,"All it takes to deal with your alcoholism is admitting that you have a problem."<BR/>Or to stay within the realm of the Christian faith, it's saying that faith is simply an static internal element with no particular expression. It's hard to not need invigoration when you teach that how a person interacts with their faith or expresses it in their daily lives isn't particularly central. It's hard to talk meaningfully of a "life in grace" when you disconnect the believer from the matrix of Grace that is the Body of Christ.<BR/><BR/>And that's where I think Protestantism falls down. The intent was right on, but I just don't see how the execution was supposed to work.Jessehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16489267523825043665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4058990608176249.post-45745820059808530502008-10-28T20:47:00.000-04:002008-10-28T20:47:00.000-04:00Very good insights here on Wesley. Sanctification ...Very good insights here on Wesley. Sanctification by faith apart from askesis is what James warns of in his epistle. Faith without sharing in the self-sacrifical way of life that is our resting place in Christ is not faith at all, only positive thinking.Alice C. Linsleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13069827354696169270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4058990608176249.post-19046067137287056662008-10-28T15:36:00.000-04:002008-10-28T15:36:00.000-04:00"This search for a doctrinal panacea has continued..."This search for a doctrinal panacea has continued until this very moment, the most well-known current manifestation being the so-called “prosperity gospel:, “blab it and grab it”, as Mar Cassian puts it. "<BR/><BR/>Check out the work of Justin Peters on this at his site: http://www.justinpeters.org and be sure to watch the video!Caronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09453239691669066071noreply@blogger.com